tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7205273001704841041.post4139641093583760848..comments2018-04-08T07:44:18.683-04:00Comments on The Antonym of Deliberate: More than 'Just' FriendsTrischahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14271302465062935135noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7205273001704841041.post-20068257428848018642013-08-11T16:49:48.399-04:002013-08-11T16:49:48.399-04:00Thank you, Natalie! So much underlining in my copy...Thank you, Natalie! So much underlining in my copy as well. <br /><br />(Oh, and there is a section of Keating's writing on "the double-bind" that I think ties in with many of Dan's insights, but I couldn't work it in to this post. Is 'The Mystery of Christ' still on your to-read list?) Trischahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14271302465062935135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7205273001704841041.post-60836708456772747322013-08-11T16:24:38.092-04:002013-08-11T16:24:38.092-04:00"...if we look to the Lord for some sense of ..."...if we look to the Lord for some sense of friendship between men and women, we see something remarkable between Him and Martha, Mary, and Lazarus.... Between these two sisters and Mary Magdalene we see the Lord as a man who was intimate (in the proper sense of the word, as you mention, thank you) with women." <br /><br />That is so well stated and I agree with you wholeheartedly. In his book, Dan does cover the topic of Jesus' relationships and interactions with women, noting how radical those were for his time. <br /><br />Thank you for reading and for your comment.Trischahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14271302465062935135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7205273001704841041.post-32508016033614527322013-08-11T15:49:13.748-04:002013-08-11T15:49:13.748-04:00Excellent piece! Love that you mentioned the "...Excellent piece! Love that you mentioned the "one another's"- I underlined that part too. :) I had never considered the fullness of those verses until reading Dan's book.<br /><br />Raising my glass to a better understanding of sacred intimacy!Natalie Trusthttp://www.natalietrust.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7205273001704841041.post-19672882699736378362013-08-11T01:49:32.685-04:002013-08-11T01:49:32.685-04:00It is difficult from the way the narratives of the...It is difficult from the way the narratives of the Gospel are given to put together a sophisticated portrait of some of the relationships (which is my way of saying, don't let me derive too much from what I'm going to reference here), but I think that, if we look to the Lord for some sense of friendship between men and women, we see something remarkable between Him and Martha, Mary, and Lazarus. The Apostle John says outright that Jesus loved the three of them. The kind of love that brought Him tears at Lazarus's grave. Between these two sisters and Mary Magdalene we see the Lord as a man who was intimate (in the proper sense of the word, as you mention, thank you) with women.<br /><br />And, as you also mention, love without gender limitations is emphasized in particular by the Beloved Apostle. It is emphasized a great deal in his first epistle, and Christ is the model. "Love one another as I have loved you." It is a love that casts out fear, as John also says in his letter.<br /><br />It's a shame if the fear of sexual temptation is so overwhelming in some circles (or if one's sense of one's own proclivities is so poor) that genuine friendship between a man and a woman who are not husband and wife is frowned upon or forbidden. That's not casting out fear. It's living right in the wretched grip of it.<br /><br />I ramble. It's always a bit odd when an Internet comment goes on as though trying to compete with the original post for number of words of depth of smarty-pants ideas. ;-)<br /><br />Nice post.Virgil T. Moranthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12097568763565190893noreply@blogger.com